
Second set of reviews on
BRING BEANIES BACK TO REALITY
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Subject: GREAT ARTICLE
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:52:53 -0400
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Parts of this message were removed because it contained names and concerns of other Beanie experts.
This person has valid concerns, but I do not feel that I need to post the names of the experts she is upset with. Ms. Janie
Janie,
I just finished reading your article on Beanie Reality and it was GREAT!
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I just think it is disgusting how just because
something retires immediately it's price skyrockets.
I remember back in Dec. when Seamore price was "valued" at around $60. Well
it took some work, but I finally found one for my daughter for $30 and to
us that was a lot of money for a silly little beanie but it was for
Christmas so I went ahead and bought it. Well just a few weeks later,
********* decides that Seamore is worth $160!!! How can something go up
that much in value. It was ridiculous. For awhile the price was even up to
$200. I asked my little girl if she would like to sell her Seamore and buy
a plane ticket to visit her big brother in another state. She said NO WAY.
Seamore is loveable and can be with me forever, but a plane trip will only
last a short time. Of course now you can see ads for Seamore for around
$120!
Well just want to say thanks for telling the truth and nothing but the
truth. I wish others in the beanie world would come into reality and
realize that these are merely toys that they are snatching away from kids.
I am tired of adults saying that they aren't kids toys anymore and if kids
want them, then there are plenty of them...they can go without the HTF and
most sought after. Well I am sorry, my 2 daughters would love to have the
bears. When Erin came out one daughter who has always loved the color green
was so excited. Of course I had to break her heart and tell her she may
never get one because all the adults would buy them up at retail and resell
them and we couldn't afford one. Then we would even go into TY retailer
stores and they would be selling Erin as well as Princess for over $100.
Her heart sank even more.
God bless you for your honesty and integrity. I really want to get your
book now!
Pam
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:46:23 -0400
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In order to keep from offending anyone, Parts of this e-mail have been removed. It contained names of Experts and their pricing guides.
I enjoyed your article about prices going down and being your own
pricing guide.
I collect beanies for fun, and my father sometimes buys some for sale or
trade. **************************************************
************************But now I realize I don't need them as much, only
for brief updates.
I have to agree about greediness. I was trying to start a club for
boycotting high prices, that'll help bring them down. But I only had 2
members. :( I am 13, and can never get a new beanie for the right
amount. And from a kid's point of view, it stinks! It really STINKS!
Keep writing great articles!
One Of Your Many #1 Fans,
Alissa
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:31:00 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Re: Bring Beanies Back to Reality
Thanks and I am glad we have a voice out there that understands what the
average collector is going through. I believe someone needed to take a stand
to help keep this fun and exciting collectible going.
Thanks Josh
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:19:11 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: beanie articles
Your beanie articles (bringing beanies back to reality) is very true. I wish
all beanies were affordable. Personally, I can't continue collecting because
it is too expensive. And in fear of the beanie market falling, I've been
pressured by other beanie collectors to sell them before I get caught with
them and out of money. I really love collecting beanies, and it's very fun,
but that is why I collect them--because they are worth something! And as a
last buy (since I'm selling all my others) I was looking to find a Glory, that
new cute bear. I wanted to keep it to remind my self how much fun it was! :)
But all offers I've seen are outrageous!! It makes me mad to see people sell
them so high when they are NEW releases, and aren't even officially out yet.
And I'm only 15, so my money is limited. And this means little kids can't get
them, either! Well thanks for taking your time to make your lovely,
informative page!
Thanks,
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:25:11 -0400
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Subject: Beanies
Janie
I have to agree with your latest article 100%. I think dealers, both
primary & secondary, are pricing themselves out of a job. I can
understand paying higher prices for older retired beanies, but I will
NOT support dealers who charge higher prices for currents.
There is a primary dealer right up the street that I used to support
because he sold all currents for $ 7.00. However, he has gotten greedy.
When the last set of new beanies came out, he still charged $7 for the
other currents, but $ 20.00 for the new ones. That's when I quit going
to him.
Interestingly enough, all the people that I saw in line at other stores,
who would go out to the car and change clothes so they could get more
than one of each, are now at the local flea market. Sure, they have
tons of the last wave of new ones, but they're stuck selling them for
$6.50 - $7.00. I laugh at the people who paid $ 25 for Stretch, when I
can now walk in and buy him for regular price. Sure I didn't get him
first, but WHO CARES.
There are several stores in Cincinnati that still sell ALL beanies at
$6.00. Whether they are new or just retired or whatever. I was able to
get a Princess in January at one of these stores for regular price.
These are the stores that I take all of my business to, including
non-beanie purchases.
All of the beanies I buy are for my 14 year old daughter. And they are
not for investment. They are on shelves, on the floor, lugged around in
backpacks. And she only buys the ones she thinks look 'neat'. That's
the way beanies should be.
Diane
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:13:20 -0400
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Jane,
I just finished reading your article and I really enjoyed it. I feel
very much the way you do. It's getting a little out of hand. I found
myself in the middle of an argument at a MacDonalds during the Teenie
Beanie campaign. I couldn't believe how "adults" could act over a
little stuffed animal. I think the kids have a much better attitude
toward the whole thing.
I just began collecting last fall because of my daughter-in-law. Now my
daughter has joined us and we have a ball calling each other with
"Beanie Alerts." We have decided that if it takes a while to collect
the new releases, so what. We have lots of "Beanie Runs" ahead of us.
If we got them all on the secondary market our fun would be over too
soon and we would probably go into "Beanie Withdrawal."
You should try to get your article printed in ***********************
Everyone, especially the dealers, should read it. It's a great
wake up call.
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Subject: Hurray For You!
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:34:40 -0400
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I have said it before and I will say it again. You are a fantastic source
of information for what is going on in this hobby. We've been on vacation
so this was the first chance I got to read this article. I have to tell you
how wonderful I found it. You tell it like it is. Like you I too have been
outraged at some of the prices we have been seeing. Now we are seeing
ridiculous prices on Wise - $100, Rocket - $50 to $100, Fortune - $300 to
$350 and Glory - $350. The prices on Wise and Rocket are being fueled by
rumors of lawsuits. My husband and I are still shaking our heads. The sad
part is that people are paying these prices. You should see what a couple
of stores are charging for both the old Iggy and the new one. I just want
to scream sometimes. I have collected one thing or another since I was a
girl and I have seen crazes come and go, but I have never seen anything
like this and both my husband and I have to agree with you when you say
that these things can only hurt the hobby. We saw this happen with baseball
cards a few years ago and now some cards that were going for $50 to $100
are only worth cents. Many people got a bad taste in their mouths about
collecting when the bottom dropped in that hobby. Can you imagine what will
happen if the same thing happens with Beanie Babies?
I can honestly tell you that since Jim and I started our little campaign to
not pay more then retail we have saved people a great deal of morning. I
still need Erin and Princess for my kids, mainly because we keep missing
shipments at our favorite stores, but many of our friends and fellow
collectors have been able to get them for either retail or very close to
it. And we have been thanked and even given a couple of things as "Thank
you" for saving them money. I wish I had been able to convince one of my
friends who would not believe me about the prices coming down. She spent
over $400 on two Princess Bears, last week she went to a BB show and they
were selling them for $35, she is very angry. Today we walked into a store
that had just sold their shipment for $20. I personally would feel a heck
of a lot better spending $40 than $400.
It articles like yours that make me feel that our little group of BB
Collectors is right and justified in refusing to pay the outrageous prices.
I love BB and I have about 60 of my own. My kids have over 90 each. We are
your average middle class family and I can't afford to pay what some people
are asking. Thank you Janie for telling everyone how you feel. I know many
people, including the friend I mentioned above, respect you and listen to
your advice. You will help many many people with this article. Keep up all
the good work. You are one of the great people in this hobby and I wish
there were more like you. God Bless.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:23:23 -0400
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Subject: Bring Beanies Back To Reality!!! Way To Go!!
Dear Ms. Janie
I'm sure you will not remember us, but we felt we had to write anyway.
This past Fall you gave a lecture at Belmount Elementary School, which
we attended. We were extremely impressed with your poise and gracious
gifts. Our children talked about you for over a week. They could not
believe how kind, friendly and Beanie educated you were. We purchased
your book but our son wanted your autograph all for himself. He had you
sign one of your bookmarks. Today that bookmark has been laminated and
is on his wall.
Something you said at the lecture really stuck into my mind. You
reminded all of us that you are no better than anyone else in the room.
You are a true collector and you have the same struggles we have. I
guess in a way, that made you more human than greedy, like most
experts. I can also remember you saying that you did not like to be
referred to as an expert. You felt you were very knowledgeable in
Beanies but admitted that you did not know everything. That again, made
you stand out form the rest of the crowd.
My family and I have followed your articles and press releases in our
area. We are still very impressed with you and just had to tell you how
we felt.
We recently read your interview on ctoys.com. "That's the Ms. Janie we
know and love" "Down home, honest and hard working".
Your article on Bring Beanies Back To Reality, was one of your best
ever. We also enjoyed your Secondary Market article. All of your
articles have a warm feeling to them, they allow collectors to relate to
someone who is a real person with real feelings. Your articles are well
researched and have helped us tremendously in our Beanie collecting.
We have ventured onto other sites and read other topics, NONE compare
to the honesty and integrity, which your articles offer. Many other
articles we read, all say the same thing. We have even noticed that a
few writers have even taken your ideas and rewritten them to suit their
purposes. Knowing you Ms. Janie, you probably don't even care!
We hope that you will visit our school again this Fall. You made a lot
of children as well as adults very happy. Ms. Janie, you're number one
in our book. I would say, just remember us when you get to the top, BUT
I know in my heart that you will never forget any of your fans.
You are truly, one of a kind!!
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:51:07 EDT
To: j81459@EROLS.COM
Subject: Re: thanks for your article
Thank you for answering my e-mail.
One more thought, I know that you have made this point clearly many
times......
If people would only be patient and stop buying current beanies at high prices
it would keep the prices down on the hard to finds! I believe that most of the
people who buy at high prices for fear of never being able to get the beanie
at a lower price are the NEW collectors! Ask me, I used to do it too! Then I
got ahold of myself and quit PANICKING about it and started finding those
Beanies for reasonable prices.
Even the retireds can be found at lower prices if we were PATIENT! LOL!
Feel free to use my comments. Thanks again,
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:33:30 -0500
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Subject: 6/14 article
WOW! GREAT WORK! I very much enjoyed reading your article addressing
several beanie issues. I must admit... I agree with you totally.
I was appalled at what that writer wrote to you about the working for
free and all. I think it is horrible for a person to think such a thing
much less, telling you too! I applaud you for what you are doing! Not
Only do I think you are a good person for doing it for free and spending
you hard earned money and time to get it done but you also show the
"fruits of the spirit" which sadly, that person knows nothing about.
Please keep up the good work, for all of us!
Your fellow collector,
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:22:11 +0000
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Subject: Your article
Hi Janie,
Just finished reading your article , it was very nice, but
unfortunately, meaningless. I have been involved in the World of
Collectibles long before the first Beanie was ever produced. The price
for an item is what people will pay for it, that simple. As long as
people will pay outrageous prices for Beanies, someone will sell it at
that price. When people stop paying, the price will go down. As far as
people being incensed over Beanie crime, they need to see that to a
criminal, a beanie is just like a TV, VCR, etc. If money could be gotten
from its theif, they'll steal it!! It doesn't take a brain surgeon to
figure it out
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:35:53 -0500
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Subject: Bring beanies back to reality
Janie,
No real question here, just a note of support. My daughter, and my son
in some cases, love running around trying to find those beanies they
don't have yet. My daughter especially wants to get those older ones
that retired before she knew what beanies were! I myself would welcome
a little market correction just to get prices down where we could afford
to pick up some of those. And she wants to continue collecting these
things, for years, probably. I think that this is one of those things
that if parents and kids got together on, it could be a family sport.
We like running around together!! And now that I am trying to get
trading beanies together to get older ones, all of a sudden I have a ton
of the darn things everywhere, and I have a hard time parting with
them--this from a 37 year old man! Anyway, keep up the good work, it
doesn't happen often enough that kids and adults get together on
something that is non-violent AND collectible.
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:11:39 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Kudos to you and to my retailer
Dear Ms. Janie,
Thank you for stressing the importance of children and their
feelings. Thank you for caring about this wonderful product. Thank you for
allowing us all a reality check.
Having said that, I must brag about my retailer,( Call her Frank. I
can't use her name . I don't want to get her into trouble.), in the
Indianapolis area who upon being knocked to the ground for some Erin Bears,
took the full box of Erin, Valentino and Curly to her stock room. She then
proceeded to call any child aged twelve and under into the stock room and
allowed them to have first crack at these treasures.
This brought applause from those of us who had become appalled by
these maniacs. How dare they act in such a manner in front of these kids! The
kids see these as play things. It is only when the adults turn this into a
crazed search for the big buck that we lose sight. Let the children play! Let
the collectors collect, but, PLEASE, those of you who are out for blood, don't
ruin it for the kids.
The world could end tomorrow, the market could crash and what
you would be left with is what TY Inc. designed in the first place....a
huggable, cuddly plaything that lights up the faces of children and adults
alike.
Thank you, Ms. Janie and, thank you to my retailer for seeing
this for what it is.
Well Janie, you did it again. Your article today was fantastic. I hope a LOT of people read it. I read through it rather fast, tonight I plan to read it in more carefully.
I admire you courage, you are willing to state the facts as you see them and fortunately you have the talent and reputation to get them printed where they will be noticed and read. I am sure some people don't like what you said, but it is good for us all to face some of the facts, no matter what area of this business we are a part of.
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:22:48 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Response to your article
I just quickly read your article and discovered it produced a lot of the same
emotions in me, too many to address right now.
The main one that struck me was about the people in this hobby for a racket
and trying to make a fast buck off of true Beanie enthusiasts.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:24:43 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Re: Bring Beanies Back To Reality
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Not only was I angry, I was also very hurt!
What's wrong with trying to be a good person? Why does everybody have to
always look at the money issues? I'll agree it cost me money and time to write
and research articles. It would be nice to get paid for what I do, BUT the
bottom line is, I enjoy it and who knows, maybe one day I'll be discovered! In
my book, honesty and hard work always pays off in the end.
Janie Daniels
Janie,
I loved it!!!! This last paragraph is what set you apart from the majority of
the people who are involved in this hobby today!!! Even if your name hadn't
been at the end of that I would have known without a doubt that your
writing!!!! You're truly one of a kind and I hope I have the opportunity to
meet you in person one of these days. You need to come to one of the shows
here in Texas one of these days. I NEVER go to Houston but they do have huge
BB show and I would make an exception if you were to be at one of them!!! LOL
Keep up the good work and never let anyone talk you out of your ideals!!!
Debbi
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Hi!
I just finished reading your "Bring Beanies Back to Reality" article. What
a refreshing take on this whole craze. I have been collecting with my kids
for a very short time - since last October - and we have loved every minute
of it. We have however witnessed some sub-human behavior by grown adults
that have made me almost reconsider our hobby. I want my kids to have
something that they love to do but will not sacrifice the honest, kind and
moral behavior we as parents have worked so hard to instill in them. Some
of the "adult" collectors I have run in to at stores are a true
embarrassment! I have been able to find most of my beanies at retail price
but have had to pay some secondary market prices as I live in a small town
that doesn't get beanies frequently. I have also traded. The majority of
people I have dealt with are wonderful. I actually have a few good "cyber
friends" that I talk to all the time and one I actually met!
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I thought your article was
wonderful, precise and right on the mark. We need to keep our eyes on what
beanies are - a great toy for our kids and ourselves to enjoy - not a get
rich scheme.
Thanks for all you do. I love your homepage - check it everyday!
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:12:45 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Bring Beanies Back to Reality
Just got done reading your WONDERFUL article on the ctoys site. Hurray!!!!!!!
Finally someone speaks out on the problems with prices and you have put
confidence back into the collectors. A+ A+ A+ Great Job!!!!
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:21:28 -0500
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Subject: "Bring Beanies Back" Article
Dear Ms. Janie,
This was the best article by far that you have written. I couldn't
agree with you more! You said everything I have been feeling about
beanie collecting for the last six months. My six year old son just
last weekend finally added Princess to his collection. His name was
drawn from a box full of names and he purchased her for $4.99. It took
him seven months to get this bear!
In the meantime, we've started collecting Disney beanies because of the
frustration in collecting Ty beanies. At least with Disney beanies they
cost $6.00 and you don't have to worry about being over charged.
I was trying to come up with a way that Ty could do a survey asking
their collectors which stores they purchased beanies at that sold them
in the $5-$7 range. Then ask which stores sold bears and hard to finds
for $25 and up. Ty could them take that information and send only 12
bears to the stores that were greedy and trying to make a huge profit
and take the other 24 bears and put that amount with the 36 they
normally send in a package and send 60 bears to the stores that sell
them for $5-$7. That rewards the retailer and collectors and they
wouldn't have to tell anyone they were doing this.
I thought I'd mention my idea to you incase you might somehow improve on
it and pass it on to Ty. People love surveys and Ty could put it on
their website and everyone would respond. Of course they'd have to ask
other questions so no one would suspect what they were up to.
Just a thought! Anything to help get our hobby back!
Thanks again for the great article. You made me feel much better after
I read it.
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:58:26 PDT
Janie,
You have really stirred the pot of bb lovers and advisories
apparently! I'm unfamiliar with your book and articles (I want to read
them). In late March I was introduced to the bb's after months of
resisting them. I vaguely remember my daughter asking for them at
McDs-but they were sold out. In our hometown prices jump to $40 for say
"Weenie" or "Christopher" in the same stores that sold them for $6. You
know the demand is not that instant!! Thank you for reading this and I
look forward to a response.
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:45:27 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: Bring Beanies Back to Reality
Interesting article however I was disappointed you didn't talk more about the
lunacy of things like Fortune preselling on eBay for $535...even the rest of
the new ones being presold all over the Internet for $20 and way over that.
People just can't stand waiting so they artificially inflate the prices by
paying exorbitant prices and scaring everyone else. It's like the run on the
banks during the depression. In order to have a secondary market, there have
to be customers...and they are out there enmass! Erin is a great
example...over $200 when she first came out...now down to $50 and
falling...with many people now getting Erin for normal prices.
The bottom line on the business with the new ones is that it is a great
gimmick for Ty...put them out in limited supply so people are nuts over
getting them...this drags on til the system is milked and then they start
being available. There is no way you will ever convince me that Ty, with all
his millions and resources, cannot supply the demand. He deliberately does not
meet the demand and creates the environment for this insanity. It is brilliant
marketing! But if he really cared about the kids he would do one or two at a
time in GREAT supply til everyone had theirs and then supply the next few.
Yup...it would probably significantly slow the Beanie Craze...but ah
well...the only ones who would suffer are the secondary market folks. He'd
still be making his millions and those who love beanies would get them at
reasonable prices.
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Subject: Beanies Back to Reality
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:21:50 -0600
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Janie, Your article was right on!! I keep telling a fellow collector
that if TY produced excessive quantities of each and every Beanie, the
end-consumers still pay by decreased retired value. He sides with the
retailers. And when you see auctions for bags of Beanies unopened, you
know who is selling them. So it makes it much harder to collect them.
With several bears and the owl coming out now, guess what, forget buying
them cause they will be underhanded with these as well. It's not that
they are hard to find, they just never make it to the shelf to buy. I
just wish that people could open their hearts and minds to become better
human beings with real ethics and morals when they read something like
this. The world won't improve until we improve as individuals.
I had to decide to sell my collection as it is out of hand and it is
no longer fun. And I don't see any point in being reminded of small and
heartless people can be. It does make me feel better to read articles
by others that feel the same way. Thanks
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:16:41 -0400
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Thank you for writing the article. We are a Ty Beanie Dealer and I agree
with what you are saying. We have made a commitment to sell all our
Beanies for $5.00 dollars. This past week all other stores in our area
sold the Erin and Princess for much more. Our customers even ask us why we
are only selling them for $5.00. All we can say is because that is the
price Beanie Babies are in our shop. We have had several occasions of
other stores calling and reporting us for not having a shop when we have a
larger shop and more space devoted to Ty than any shop in the area. We are
not trying to take anyone's customers away but just be fair about pricing.
We do not discuss other stores with customers. Ty needs to address stores
who are simply in the business to be greedy.
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:18:03 EDT
To: j81459@erols.com
Subject: thanks for your article
Janie,
Just read your article on your thoughts about rumors etc...
It was really touching. It was so good to hear someone say the things that you
said about the hobby.
I am a secondary dealer (flea market) and I can honestly say that I feel the
same way that you do about collecting beanies. I buy currents at a local
store, stand in line like everyone else and pay $5.50 + tax. I sell them at my
flea market space for $6.50.
By the time I pay the 6% commission and my space rent, I break even. But I sell
other items that help pay the space rent. The point is that I LOVE helping
people find those hard to finds and getting them for a fair price! I have done
one beanie show and traded Princess for a few beanies that were newly retired
and a little worn. It wasn't a "profitable" deal but I loved the smile on the
little girls face!
Thanks for saying that there are some honest secondary people out here!